most recent 30 from latin.stackexchange.com 2025-08-05T15:34:59Z https://latin.stackexchange.com/feeds/question/23714 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf https://latin.stackexchange.com/q/23714 -2 Tim https://latin.stackexchange.com/users/1100 2025-08-05T15:05:06Z 2025-08-05T17:09:35Z

<p>Oxford Latin Dictionary says:</p> <blockquote> <p>alis see alius.</p> <p>-alis, -ale adjl. suff. Collat. w. -aris, which is used when the base contains an l (but cf. cleacalis, limitalis); formed from nouns (exitialis, officialis, regalis).</p> </blockquote> <p>Was suffix -alis derived from alis or alius? Or are they unrelated?</p>

https://latin.stackexchange.com/questions/23714/-/23715#23715 3 Draconis https://latin.stackexchange.com/users/406 2025-08-05T17:08:14Z 2025-08-05T17:08:14Z

<p>As far as I know, they're unrelated.</p> <p>De Vaan derives <em>alius</em> from PIE *<em>h₂el-</em> &quot;other&quot; (compare Greek <em>allos</em>, Latin <em>alter</em>), which makes perfect sense. He doesn't list <em>-ālis</em> since it's not a lexeme in its own right, but it's hard to see how &quot;pertaining to&quot; could come from &quot;other&quot;; looking online, some sites suggest a link to the second half of <em>ind-olēs</em> (&quot;innate&quot;), in which case it would would come from an unrelated *<em>h₂el-</em> &quot;nourish&quot;, as in <em>alō</em>.</p>

https://latin.stackexchange.com/questions/23714/-/23716#23716 2 Ben Kovitz https://latin.stackexchange.com/users/118 2025-08-05T17:09:35Z 2025-08-05T17:09:35Z

<p><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-alis#Latin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Wiktionary</a> offers:</p> <blockquote> <p>From Proto-Indo-European <em>*-li-</em>, which later dissimilated into an early version of <em>-āris</em> (e.g., <em>mīlitāris</em>). Perhaps connected to <em>*h₂el-</em> (“to grow”) (cf. the sense of <em>indolēs</em>, from this root).</p> </blockquote> <p>So, apparently there's no connection with <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alis#Latin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">alis</a>/<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alius#Latin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">alius</a> (&quot;other&quot;).</p>

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